The Mystical Positivist: The Mystical Positivist - Radio Show #283

Saturday, February 10, 2018

The Mystical Positivist - Radio Show #283 - 10FEB18

The Mystical Positivist is now a weekly radio show on KOWS-LP 107.3 FM, Occidental, CA. Listen live on Saturday evenings from 4:00 - 6:00pm, PST, via the web at KOWS Live Stream.

This week's podcast features:

This week’s show features a conversation via Skype with Ocke de Boer about his new book Two Souls. His previous book is called Higher Being Bodies. Ocke de Boer is the engine of a Work-group in Holland which has been in existence since 1990. He studied esotericism in Amsterdam for 4 years at a Raja Yoga School for Universal Thinking, which is non-dualistic thinking. Mr. de Boer gained a general education in philosophy, religion and esoteric systems without getting lost in any of them. His center of gravity is in the Fourth Way, “our Work” as he puts it, which he refuses to call the Gurdjieff Work. In his own words: “Gurdjieff was and is a very big guy in the Fourth Way, but he did not invent it.”

More information about Ocke de Boer's work can be found at:

Higher Being Bodies website: www.higherbeingbodies.com

2 comments:

Sandy WhitmoreMay 27, 2023 at 7:02 PM
I just stumbled across this and am familiar with Ocke and his first book This fine interview prompted me to buy the second one :) Would like to suggest another author of an excellent recent publication who would make another good interview with you if you are unaware of him, Stephen Aronson: A Psychologist's Journey Through Gurdjieff and Jung. You may already know him but if not is not hard to find..He was a close friend of Keith Buzzell. Pardon me if I'm overstepping, but I for one would enjoy hearing you interact with him. Sandy
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The Mystical PositivistMay 29, 2023 at 8:34 PM
Hi Sandy, Thanks for the comments! We know Stephen well and have had him on our podcast 3 times. You can find them at: https://mysticalpositivist.blogspot.com/2022/02/the-mystical-positivist-radio-show-395.html, https://mysticalpositivist.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-mystical-positivist-radio-show-332.html, and https://mysticalpositivist.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-mystical-positivist-radio-show-350.html. Let me know if you need help finding these episodes on our site. All the best, Stuart.
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"The Mystical Positivist" Radio Show

The Mystical Positivist is a weekly radio show on KOWS-LP FM 107.3 Occidental, CA, and on the web at KOWS-LP Live Feed, Saturdays from 4 - 6pm PST. Coming up on The Mystical Positivist:

April 20: A pre-recorded conversation with Ken McLeod, Buddhist teacher and author of the newly released book, The Magic of Vajrayana. In this conversation, we plan to explore a compelling quote from Ian McGilchrist's The Matter with Things: If you had set out to destroy the happiness and stability of a people, it would have been hard to improve on our current formula: remove yourself as far as possible from the natural world; repudiate the continuity of your culture; believe you are wise enough to do whatever you happen to want and not only get away with it, but have a right to it—and a right to silence those who disagree; minimise the role played by a common body of belief; actively attack and dismantle every social structure as a potential source of oppression; reject the idea of a transcendent set of values.

One of the more innovative Buddhist teachers today, Ken McLeod is known for his clear explanations, poetic translations, and pragmatic approach to practice. He is one of the first generation of Western teachers in the Tibetan tradition and one of the few to be authorized to transmit the full scope of these teachings to students. In particular, his approach resonates strongly with those whose path lies outside established institutions.

After graduating with a degree in mathematics, Ken cycled across Europe to Istanbul and then continued his journey overland to India. In 1970 he met his principal teacher Kalu Rinpoche at his monastery near Darjeeling. There Ken began a study and practice in Tibetan Buddhism that lasted more than twenty years. He completed the traditional three-year retreat program two times, translated for many teachers, and helped set up Buddhist centers in Canada and the United States. After his teacher's passing, Ken moved away from the hierarchical structures of Asian Buddhism to explore new approaches.

In 1990, he founded Unfettered Mind in Los Angeles. His approach of one-on-one consultations roiled the Buddhist world in the early '90s, but was quickly recognized as a viable way to teach and guide students in the West. He made individual interviews a central feature of the many retreats he taught in California, New Mexico, and British Columbia. Through numerous small groups in Southern California, he developed the materials that became the encyclopedic meditation manual, Wake Up to Your Life.

Now retired from formal teaching, he lives in Northern California where he hikes and writes. His writings and translations include The Great Path of Awakening (1987), Wake Up to Your Life (2001), An Arrow to the Heart (2007), Reflections on Silver River (2014), A Trackless Path (2017), and The Magic of Vajrayana (2022), as well as a corpus of articles and translations in Tricycle and other Buddhist magazines.